Truth – The Current Battle

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  1. revivalandreformation Says:

    Sometimes I sit back and read comment posts and jump in and have at ‘er, but sometimes I see absolutely no reason to open my mouth, because it won’t make a lick of difference. I see this in Bob here, and Joe, I think you’re wasting your time in trying to knock some sense into him. I have had this sort of dialogue on more than one occasion, but have learned to just walk away. Didn’t Paul say that he washed his hands and walked away? Bob obviously has a chip on his shoulder regarding Mr. MacArthur, and cannot help but dig up anything and everything that might add fuel to the fire to burn him at the stake.

    I have a few questions for Bob if I may:

    1. How does one become saved?

    2. If you died right here and now and stood before God, and He asked you on what grounds should He allow you into heaven, what would be your answer?

    3. Have you gone to God in prayer over Mr. MacArthur and your problems with his teachings?

    4. And is your real problem with MacArthur or Christ?

    I seem to be picking up on some bitterness and resentment in your comments veiled in a mask of civility. You are having a very hard time holding in your anger/hatred/ what have you… and the more you volley back and forth with Joe, the more it is seeping out.

    What IS your problem anyway? Is it apostasy or is it rebellion against what you know down deep is the truth? Just asking.


  2. Bob Schoenle Says:

    I, of course, agree with your statement that works can not be a cause of salvation, but rather inevitably flow from it. On the other hand, I do not understand how you could read The Gospel According to Jesus and not see how its contents contradict Scripture with statements such as, ‘The gospel invitation is not an entreaty for sinners to allow the Savior into their lives’ (p. 106). I have heard MacArthur say, ‘You cannot have Jesus as your Savior until you first make Him your Lord.’ What an incrdible thing to say.

    I am not in love with Dallas Theological Seminary at this time either. I believe at one time it was one of the top schools in America but things changed when some of its teachers became advocates of ‘replacement theology’ as did some on the faculty at Moody Bible Institute. The fact that some DTS grads are now introducing Emergent Church videos and teachings to their flocks does not surprise me. I believe this is all a fulfillment of the great apostasy that Paul prophesied of in 2 Th. 2:3. Your position towards DTS grads is quite extreme however, when you consider that men like Hal Lindsey and David Jeremiah are numbered among them. But for MacArthur to take to task and be in disagreement with men such as Lewis Sperry Chafer, Clarence Larkin and C. I. Scofield regarding the matter of salvation I find quite incredible. I do not see how anyone could miss the warning flags of deception when MacArthur did so back in 1988.

    I think you misunderstood the list of names I gave you. That was not my list. That was MacArthur’s list of people he disagreed with on what the good news of the Lord Jesus Christ was. The names you put down were not among those who MacArthur chose to attack in his book. How about that!

    I would recommend you listen to MacArthur’s many sermons on Matthew 7:21. Then compare what he has to say with the reason John gave for writing his Gospel (Jn. 20:30-31). If all of the striving and straining that MacArthur says is necessary for anyone to be saved is true, than the apostle John would have been REMISS for not including those ‘acts’ or ‘things’ with the reason for writing his gospel. In other words, if the reason given by John for writing his Gospel is not ALL that one needs to know in order to be a Christian, then his reason would be INCOMPLETE.

    John simply wanted his readers to know of some of the things he had witnessed and heard the Lord Jesus say and had seen Him do so they might ‘believe’ and be ‘saved.’ As I have mentioned to you earlier, John used the word ‘believe’ [trust] 60 times in his Gospel while omitting the word ‘repent.’ Thus, the ‘Protestant [under protest] Movement’ was based upon ‘sola gratia’ [grace alone] (Eph. 2:8-9), ‘sola fide’ [faith alone] (Rom. 5:1), ‘sola Scriptura’ [Scripture alone] (2 Tim. 3:16), with the results being ‘soli Deo gloria’ [to God alone be glory].

    I wonder if you agree with MacArthur who teaches that all Christians are disciples. I always wondered how MacArthur explained the church in Corinth based upon this belief of his. I am sure he must have spoke about that during his 40 plus years in the pulpit but I cannot remember hearing him do so. I guess that is why he uses what the Lord Jesus had to say regarding the cost of discipleship and applies it as being the cost of salvation. When he does this, of course, it then becomes a works oriented Gospel message (Mt. 10:24-25, 37-39; Lk. 14:25-33; Jn. 8:31-32; 13:35; 15:8, 20) as is evidenced with his teachings on Matthew 7:21. I truly feel sorry for all who will be left behind after the Rapture has taken place (Mt. 7:22-23; 25:10-12; Lk. 13:22-27). They will then know that they had been deceived by a false Gospel that had been taught to them by a false teacher. The most important question a ‘professing’ Christian may be asked is, ‘Upon what is your salvation based?” The answer given will reveal whether they are or are not truly saved! Amen.


    • ChurchSalt Says:

      The more you write the more I think I see the big divide between you and MacArthur. MacArthur is from the Reformed camp and goes by the name Calvinist where I am guessing you are not and do not. For example, you stated that MacArthur is wrong when he says, ‘The gospel invitation is not an entreaty for sinners to allow the Savior into their lives’. To portray Jesus as saying “oh please let me in” and helpless to do anything other than hope that people give him entrance is to deny the sovereignty of God, which is the heart of reformed theology. The doctrine of Irresistible Grace (the “I” in the TULIP acronym) is about this very thing. The problem you have is not MacArthur per se, but with Calvinism.

      Myself, I used to despise Calvinism until I started digging into Scripture more and came to realize that most of the arguments made against it were done so by people who don’t truly understand it. I still do not go by the name Calvinist, nor hold him up as some icon of holiness, but I have come to realize that the doctrines put forth by Calvin, Luther, Knox and other reformers take into account ALL of Scripture rather than just select passages.

      As far as if I have to give up everything? I will let Paul answer that for me…

      You are not your own, for you were bought with a price
      . 1 Cor 6:19-20

      Those who are found in Christ are referred to in greek as “duolos” over 100 times in NT Scripture. It means “slave”, so I guess I can honestly say that when I became a Christian I lost the right to retain all those things of mine which should be “counted as dung”. Is giving them up what saved me? No. But when you get saved you give them up. Is good works what saves you? No. But when you get saved you repent at that same moment and live a life of repentance. The first and last message of both Jesus and John the Baptist had repentance at the start of that message. I don’t see why MacArthur is a false teacher for modeling his message after theirs. It sure beats the “just ask Jesus into your heart” message that is found nowhere in Scripture!


      • Bob Schoenle Says:

        My reply to your comments Joe, will begin with your last one. You correctly say that, ‘The first and last message of both Jesus and John the Baptist had repentance at the start of that message.’ What you and so many ignore is both said it during the ‘Age of Law’ while speaking to Jews living under the ‘Law.’ When the Lord Jesus gave up His spirt the ‘Age of Law’ was fulfilled, and the ‘Age of Grace’ began. The thief on the cross was the first man saved in the new ‘Age of Grace.’ The apostle John did not ever refer to ‘repentance’ in his Gospel because what was necessary to do first was to ‘believe’ in order to be ‘saved’ in the new ‘Age of Grace.’ Thus, in the ‘Age of Law’ it was necessary to first repent before approaching the LORD. In the ‘Age of Grace’ it is necessary to first ‘believe’ before doing so. I know that I am being redundant here but it seems I need to be so to help you see the difference between the two ‘ages.’

        Now in response to your comment about MacArthur being from the Reformed camp and goes by the name Calvinist and surmising correctly that I am not. However, you are incorrect to say that the problem I have is not MacArthur per se, but with Calvinism. My problem is with both MacArthur and Calvinism! It is MacArthur’s Calvinistic background that will cause him to give the correct gosple message one day and a work’s orientated gospel message the following day. Thus, I have considered his gospel message to be ‘schizophrenic’ because of its inconsistency. I have often thought that the gospel message he gives depends upon who his audience is at that moment.

        I got half way through ‘What Love Is This?’ by Dave Hunt before I had to set it aside. The reason for doing so is that I found the teachings and arguments of John Calvin to be so outrageous, rediculous, and blasphemous that there was no sense in finishing the book. Calvin’s portrayal of God is totally unscriptural and causes me to wonder whether I will meet him in Heaven. Dave Hunt did an outstanding job in exposing the teachings of John Calvin for the heresies they were.

        By the way, the doctrines of ‘election’ and ‘free will’ can be explained and understood by way of the marriage procedure between a Jewish couple. Please consider the following:

        There were three ‘stages’ involved in consummating a marriage between a Jewish couple during the time of the ‘first Advent’ of the Lord Jesus Christ. This procedure is also applicable to the Church.

        The first stage is called the ‘engagement.’ It took place in this way: The father of the bridegroom [God the Father] would choose a woman [election] to marry his son [the Lord Jesus Christ]. The woman then had the option of receiving or rejecting [free will] the marriage proposal. (Gen. 24:1-67; 38:6; Mt. 22:2; Eph. 1:4) Upon her acceptance of the marriage proposal, the father would then pay for her [the blood of Christ for His bride]. (Gen. 34:6-12; Ruth 4:10; 1 Sam. 18:22-27; 1 Cor. 6:19-20; 1 Pet. 1:18-19)

        The second stage is called the ‘espousement.’ (Dt. 20:7; 22:23-27; 24:5; 2 Sam. 3:14; Song 3:11; Jer. 2:2; 2 Cor. 11:2) This is when the couple was legally united as husband and wife, by ceremony, and then lived apart, without seeing or knowing each other sexually, for a minimum of 361 days and as many as 720 days. This was to confirm that the bride was a virgin and to prevent the bridegroom from procrastinating. During this time, the bridegroom would be in the process of building a dwelling for his bride. This was usually an attachment to his father’s house. It was the father of the bridegroom who determined when this dwelling was complete. When the father of the bridegroom said it was complete, he would then send his son for the ‘home-taking’ of his bride. (Jn. 14:1-3) Thus, the bridegroom never knew the day he would ‘fetch’ his bride (Mt. 24:36; Mk. 32)!

        The third stage is the ‘marriage feast’ or ‘supper’ which could be for seven days. (Jud. 14:12; Jn. 2:1-10; Rev. 19:9) This stage began with a cry that the bridegroom was returning for his bride. (Song 3:6-11; Mt. 25:6; Rev. 4:1) This is when he would learn whether or not his bride had been counting the days and watching for him. He would then take his bride to her new home where their marriage was consummated. Unlike weddings in our day, the bridegroom was always the primary participant!

        Let us now list what we know to be true from the holy Scriptures:

        1. God is not willing that any should be lost (2 Pet. 3:9) .
        2. Those saved cannot be lost. The ‘sealing’ ministry of ‘God the Holy Spirit’ applies to all who ‘trust’ [believe] the Lord Jesus Christ to be their Savior, by faith alone. They are ‘sealed’ for future delivery to Him, either by death or he ‘Rapture.’ A seal signifies, in the symbolism of Scripture: a] a finished transaction (Neh. 9:28; Est. 8:1-8; Job 9:7; Jer. 32d:6-15). b] Ownership (Jer. 32:6-15; Acts 20:28; 2 Tim. 2:19). c] Security (Est. 8:8; Dan. 6:17; Eph. 4:30). Salvation is assured by this ministry that is performed by ‘God the Holy Spirit’ (2 Cor. 1:22; Eph. 1:13; 4:30). Hence, ‘Once saved – Always saved.’
        3. There are those people whose names will be removed from the ‘Lamb’s Book of Life’ (Ex. 32:32-33; Ps. 69:28; Dan. 12:1; Phil. 4:3; Rev. 3:5; 13:8; 17:8; 20:12, 15; 21:27).

        Thus, for there to be no contradiction in the holy Scriptures, the explanation must be that the names of all human beings are placed into the ‘Lamb’s Book of Life’ upon conception. This would fulfill the ‘election’ of God. There is a time in everyone’s lives when each will be held accountable for either obeying or disobeying His instructions and receiving or rejecting the will of ‘God the Father.’ The decision to do so is based upon the ‘free will’ of each individual. Those who reject the invitation of God will then have their name removed from the Lamb’s Book of Life, be found guilty at the ‘Great White Throne Judgment’ and cast into the ‘Lake of Fire.’

        The bottom line is that until John MacArthur rejects the doctrines of John Calvin he will continue to have a mixture of false and true teachings in his messages and writings. This is the truth of the matter!

        Now in response to my friend who did see reason to open his mouth. You should know that the only chip I have on my shoulder is caused by deceptive teachings that will cause many to be lost forever. I have found the lack of discernment upon ‘professing’ Christians to be appalling. I am guessing that you think your four questions are quite profound. I find them lacking in depth and quite sanctimonious. My position regarding salvation should be crystal clear to all who have read these exchanges. I prefer my ‘Upon what is your salvation based?’ question over your ‘if you died’ question. The answer to both, however, should be the same.

        I am sorry that you seem to be picking up on some bitterness and rsentment in my comments. I cannot understand why, when I am simply trying to expose false teachings by an extremely influential man in the world of Christianity. Anger and hatred on my part? Are you kidding me? I have found that when the teachings of ‘religious’ people are exposed they are the ones who become angry and hateful. They really do not care to have their ‘comfort zone’ disturbed. Is it possible that you also are a disciple of John Calvin? It sure does seem like it. I would advise you to read Dave Hunt’s book on the subject. You might just learn something. I say all of this, of course, with love in my heart and a smile on my ruby red lips. Take care and God bless.


        • ChurchSalt Says:

          Hi Bob,
          Question: What age was Jesus in when moments before His ascension He told us to preach “repentance and the forgiveness of sins (Luke 24)”?

          Another question, are you saying that to understand the Gospel message (repentance and the forgiveness of sins) we have to go outside the Bible to study Jewish marriage protocol? You gave Scripture references, but you didn’t get your understanding of their tradition from those Scriptures. If you were to carry this understanding to its’ logical end, you would have to also admit that a “certificate of divorce” in the Jewish marriage was permissible for adultery. Since you (like me) have sinned, which is considered to be spiritual adultery, in your understanding God can “put you away” at any given moment. I wonder what assurance of salvation you have? In your hermaneutic, you should be very, very nervous! But I guess that is where grace come in… as a license to sin perhaps?

          And one more question… Are you actually saying that everyone is born a Christian, then we all lose it, and later we can become saved again if we make the choice but then can lose it yet again later on? I find it highly ironic that you accuse MacArthur and Calvin of becoming twisted and convoluted?!?!?? I don’t know even know where to begin with that interpretation of Scripture! You are doing backflips and playing “Biblical Twister” in an attempt to get away from the clear meanings of the texts.

          You gave an extremely long response, and I thank you for the time spent and the concern shown. But you have made it clear that you have read the works of Godly men and discard them as blasphemous, schizophrenic and filled with falsehood. I do not have the depth nor the eloquence of these men, so I do not think I will be able to open your eyes to the errors of your theology when they have failed. I know this will probably anger you, but that is not my intent.

          At some point, as the moderator of a discussion that is going nowhere, I must draw the line and wish you well, and that is what I am doing.

          – Joe


  3. Bob Schoenle Says:

    Evidently the quotations from MacArthur did not register for you. I will try again.

    In MacArthur’s book, THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO JESUS, he disagreed with the following men regarding ‘salvation.’ In other words, ‘what must I do to be saved.’ Please keep in mind that MacArthur agreed that this issue is equal in importance to the inerrancy of the Scriptures. I think we also agree that this is true. Please keep in mind that MacArthur disagreed with the following men on what one must do to be saved in his book. These men are:

    Lewis Sperry Chafer
    Clarence Larkin
    Charles C. Ryrie
    Zane Hodges
    Livingston Blauvelt, Jr.
    C. Michael Cocoris
    William Hogan
    E. Schuyler English
    R. B. Thieme
    C. I. Scofield
    Rich Wager
    Thomas L. Constable
    A. Ray Stanford
    Darrell L. Bock

    It is difficult to imagine any true fundamental, Bible-believing, born again Christian who would disagree or challenge these men regarding their position on ‘what must I do to be saved?’ Yet, John MacArthur did in his book THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO JESUS.

    MacArthur was so agressive in his attacks upon Charles C. Ryrie of the ‘Ryrie Study Bible ‘and Zane C. Hodges that each man found it necessary to write a book to refute what he wrote about them and their teachings on ‘salvation.’ Both men were professors at Dallas Theological Seminary when MacArthur’s book was first published in 1988. Thus, I have considered MacArthur to be the biggest wolf in sheep’s clothing since that book was published. My reason being that this book is loaded with heretical teachings based upon his reformed theology background.

    I began to listen to his daily broadcast in 1986. My son enrolled in The Master’s College in 1987 and graduated in 1991. I have continued to listen to MacArthur’s daily broadcast throughout these years. The reason why I consider him the biggest wolf in sheep’s clothing and such a dilemma for those who hear him is because 70% to 80% of what he says is right on and very insightful. Unfortunately, the other 20% to 30% of what he teaches will send you to the ‘lake of fire.’ The irony is that he encourages those who listen to him to be discerning.

    I would recommend that you read or re-read THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO JESUS. Please keep in mind tht you must separate CAUSE and EFFECT when the issue is salvation. The cause of salvation can only be by ‘believing’ in the finished work of the Lord Jesus Christ. This is why the apostle John used the word ‘believe’ 60 times in his gospel and not once used the word ‘repentance.’ All that does take place afterward is the ‘effect’ of that salvation. Take care and God bless.


    • ChurchSalt Says:

      While we are in agreement (I think) that works can not be a cause of salvation, but rather inevitably flow from it, we must agree to dis-agree regarding MacArthur. I have read a lot of his work (including the The Gospel According to Jesus) and do not see his teaching in any way contradicting Scripture.

      On a side note, I must admit I have a very different view than you concerning Dallas Theological Seminary (DTS). Every (and I do mean every) church I have visited that has a DTS grad pastor I have had to leave due to blatantly heretical teachings. The last one I left because the Pastor and the Assoc Pastor (both DTS grads) began to introduce Emergent Church videos and teachings to the teen and college groups. I know that not all DTS folk have embraced this kind of apostate liberalism (Hendricks seems to be a great professor, from what I have seen) but my personal experience of DTS teachings has been heresy at best and apostasy at worst. Like I said, I am sure that isn’t the case with all, but there is certainly enough trouble there to take great caution (myself, I downright avoid anything coming from them).

      Also, I couldn’t help but notice the names that were missing on your list, such as the Church fathers, Luther, Knox, John Owen, William Gurnall, Calvin and Matthew Henry. Might I suggest digging into some of these classic writers as well? One of the best books I have ever read is titled “Real Christianity” by Wilberforce (he was a great writer in addition to being a famous political force). I recommend that one to just about everybody (in fact, I might put a quick plug for it in a blog post soon). Just a thought…

      Take care, and thanks for the dialogue,

      – Joe


  4. Bob Schoenle Says:

    This is the error in the teaching of John MacArthur. He will quote Scripture that describe what is necessary for a Christian to do to be a ‘disciple’ of Christ, and appy them as being necessary to do for one to become a ‘true’ Christian. Thus, John MacArthur is guilty of preaching a ‘false’ gospel (Gen. 15:1-6; Jn. 20:30-31; Ro. 1:16; 4:3-5; 1 Cor. 1:21; 15:1-4)!


    • Says:

      Hi Bob,
      I am glad you stopped by, but I couldn’t disagree with you more. I have heard MacArthur explain salvation correctly countless times, that it is through faith in Christ’s atoning work on the Cross alone. I have never heard him once state works or obedience of any sort are necessary for salvation. What MacArthur does emphasize is that when a person is saved, that person then views Jesus as his Lord, something that is far more than a trivial title. It means boss, in charge, the one in authority, commander of all. When Christ is truly the Lord of a person, this will be an observable aspect in the Christian’s life. If someone professes Christianity but their life is trademarked by regular and willful rebellion to Scripture, that person is a liar, and not a Christian (see 1 John 2:3-4). I know MacArthur often gets accused of legalism, but to me that seems to be from folks who misunderstand his messages. He is a solid proponent of salvation by grace alone.


      • Bob Schoenle Says:

        The Teachings and Sayings of John F. MacArthur, Jr.

        From a tent meeting held in the summer of 1988 at the Grace Church of DuPage in Warrenville, Illinois.
        MacArthur: ‘Who are the few who find the narrow way told of in Matthew 7:13-14? … The few are those who repent and follow Jesus. And submit to the Lordship of Christ.’

        From a Grace to You radio program broadcast on 11-7-90.
        Al Sanders: ‘I heard one of your detractors say that this issue concerning salvation is an issue greater than the inerrancy of the Scriptures. Is this that important?’
        MacArthur: ‘It certainly is on that level. I wouldn’t want to make one greater than the other.’

        From the book, “The Gospel According to Jesus.”
        1. There is no more important issue than the question of what gospel we ought to believe and proclaim (p. xv).
        2. No promise of salvation is ever extended to those who refuse to accede to Christ’s lordship. Thus, there is no salvation except “lordship” salvation (p. 28).
        3. The call to surrender to the lordship of Jesus is part and parcel of His invitation to salvation (p. 112).
        4. He is Lord, and those who refuse Him as Lord cannot use Him as Savior (p. 210).
        5. Of all the realities of the gospel, none is more wonderful than the news that the enslaving grasp of sin has been broken. This truth is the heart and the very lifeblood of the Christian message (p. 60). [‘ … Jesus came … to save sinners … (1 Tim. 1:15) is more wonderful to me than what MacArthur has said here – Bob Schoenle]
        6. A gospel of grace cannot be preached to someone who has not heard that God requires obedience and punishes disobedience (p. 85).
        7. The gospel invitation is not an entreaty for sinners to allow the Savior into their lives (p. 106).
        8. The salvation of a soul is not the stale transaction we often think it is (p. 149).
        9. We do not “make” Christ Lord; He is Lord (p. 28)!
        10. Scripture never speaks of anyone “making” Christ Lord except God Himself … (p.203).
        11. The gospel that our age has popularized is a sugar-coated placebo designed more to soothe sinners than to convert them (p. 134).
        12. I do not believe, and have never taught, that a person coming to Christ must understand fully all the implicaations of sin, repentance, or the lordship of Christ (p.87-88).

        The above writings are all from the book, ‘The Gospel According to Jesus.” How MacArthur contradicts himself in these quotes from his book should be obvious. It should also be obvious that they are not in accordance with Scripture.

        False teachers always add a “but” to the atoning work of Christ. Salvation comes by faith, they teach, “but” you must do something in addition for it to be genuine, such as be baptized, repent, speak in tongues, obey God, do good works, make Jesus Lord of your life, etc. These are all ‘effects’ of salvation and are never to be part of the cause of salvation. Those who make an ‘effect’ part of their salvation are ingaged in a religious act and they remain in their sins, unsaved, as ‘professing Christians’!

        The epistle [letter] to the Romans, along with the epistles [letters] to the Galatians and Ephesians, are acknowledged as being great doctrinal books for the Christian faith. Yet, nowhere do they teach that water baptism, speaking in tongues, obedience, making Jesus lord of your life, etc., is essential for salvation.

        In Acts 15:1 a dispute arose concerning the subject of salvation. This dispute was concluded as recorded in Acts 15:35 where we find no mention is made to water baptism, speaking in tongues, making Jesus Christ lord of your life, or any other form of works as being necessary for one to be saved.

        Our salvation must be based solely on what the Lord Jesus Christ has done for us and not on what we have done, are doing, or might do for Him. The atonement was wholly of God, regardless of any argument to the contrary (2 Cor. 5:21). Salvation is completely by grace and not by any type of ‘works’ (Rom. 4:5; Eph. 2:5-13). This information is respectfully submitted to all members of the ‘body’ of Christ [the Church] for their consideration.


        • ChurchSalt Says:

          Hi, Bob
          I think you have completely missed MacArthur’s point. Repentance is a part of true belief. Someone who says “I believe I am guilty before God of horrible sin, and now I believe Jesus is Lord” but continues in willful sin doesn’t truly believe sin is horrible nor does he truly believe he is guilty. This person obviously doesn’t believe Jesus is Lord, either, because Christ made it abundantly clear that we are to abstain from sin. So to continue in willful sin is to rebel against the boss (Lord). It is not MacArthur’s position (nor mine) that doing good instead of bad saves anybody, and he makes that clear in many places. But he is saying that repentance and submission to Christ’s Lordship is a part of true salvation and they cannot be separated.

          What good is it, dear brothers and sisters, if you say you have faith but don’t show it by your actions? Can that kind of faith save anyone?

          James 2:14

          I see it completely impossible to read the New Testament (especially when diving into original languages) and come away with anything other then the fact that the message of repentance accompanies the message of forgiveness. If MacArthur is guilty of adding on to the Gospel message, than so is Jesus when He said these words:

          repentance and forgiveness of sins should be proclaimed in his name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem.

          Luke 24:47

          Thanks for stopping by!


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